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  This time of year I feel different

  by reneeisorym in

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  it has been almost seven years (i can't believe it!

  ) since i left the jws.

  i am to the point where i don't really even think about it anymore.

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  This thread is depressing me. Reading this makes me think a piece of our soul has been removed and consumed by an indifferent religious publishing company........oh wait....... I feel numb during holiday season too, sometimes even hostile. On one hand it's difficult to remain grumpy while people are enjoying "their" holidays, but being that "their" holidays aren't something I participate in, I feel numb. I've found that I'm happy for them to be happy, yet at the same time glad that I don't have to participate in all the foolishness, although I wonder what it would have been like to have been able to make that choice for myself as opposed to being born into a family situation where it was already decided.

  reneeisorym, your baby girl is what makes it worth the struggle. To me, your baby represents what the Watchtower hates the most about those who leave their cult, and its that life goes on without them.
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  LeavingWT: Why Never Discuss Doctrine?

  by InterestedOne in

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  among the various helpful pieces of advice i have read here from leavingwt, i have noticed that he often tells people to never discuss doctrine with a jw.

  i realize that discussing doctrine with a jw can be very frustrating, but i was wondering if there is a more far-reaching and less-obvious reason for this advice.

  like is it related to some peculiar aspect of the jw mind that the average person would not be aware of?.

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  Speaking from my own experiences in dealing with my 2nd generation regular pioneer mother, I've trapped her in discussion on doctrine a few times, and the last couple times I watched her actually become physically uncomfortable. Her entire demeanor looked like she was in the room with a known rapist on the lamb. The crazy part about it is the entire time I remained calm and collective while she on the other hand started raising her voice, and her reputation is that of a reasonable and level headed person. It was fascinating in a sense, yet so very troubling to me. My brother and my sister are willing to discuss these things with me, although I'm hesitant to push too hard. My father wasn't a born-in, and he's expressed to me on multiple occasions that there are things in this religion that remind him of Babylon the Great. He even stated emphatically that higher ups in the religion remind him of the Pope. Him not being a born-in and making such comments leads me to believe there's still traces of his non-cult personality present.

  My mother on the other hand is a lost cause, and to bring up doctrine and methodically point out the flaws in the WT's belief system, is too much for her to handle. I wonder at times if that plays a role into why the WT might be hesitant to discard certain key beliefs because they're all too aware of people like my mother. Are they concerned that it would be too much for some long time JWs? It'd be like pulling the rug out from under someone.
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  Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much

  by Bangalore in

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  welfare queen asks for too much.. http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/129629/welfare_queen_asks_for_too.

  bangalore.

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  LOL
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  A New Year's Resolution- I Gotta Stop Reading Anything From Watchtower

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i am a fan of anything wts hates, like smurfs and birthdays, clinking glasses in a toast, exchanging gifts on december 25th.

  i have never really been the person to set new year's resolutions, but it is something wts would not like.. anyway, i used to read blondie's comments on the wt study article.

  i remember how it kept me mad at wts to read such stupid stuff from them.

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  I saddens me that the people on this thread don't appreciate well prepared spiritual food.
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  Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much

  by Bangalore in

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  welfare queen asks for too much.. http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/129629/welfare_queen_asks_for_too.

  bangalore.

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  No Room For George

  Sheesh Shelby.......

  
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  Welfare Queen Asks For Too Much

  by Bangalore in

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  welfare queen asks for too much.. http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/129629/welfare_queen_asks_for_too.

  bangalore.

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  I have never agreed so thoroughly with Shel, until now,.......Bravo!

  She did just drop a nuclear bomb on this thread. Real life is a mutha f#$#.
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  Merry Christmas (The Ghost of Christmas Past)

  by sacolton in

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  not sure if many remember me, but i wanted to drop in to wish everyone a very merry christmas and happy new year.

  you might recall i disassociated in 2008 after ten long years as a jw.

  it destroyed my marriage, but my ex-wife soon left on her own and we remain as good friends.

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  Wait a minute, now just hold on for a moment there!!!!!! You're supposed to be bitter and angry, and selfish after leaving Jehovah!!!!! You're not supposed to be smiling while looking out for your fellow man and providing practical assistance to those in need!!!!
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  Women who have affairs...are they DUMB to think he will leave his wife?

  by Witness 007 in

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  "yes he does love me....it's just a bad time now with the kids and all...and money...he doesn't love her anymore, it just the kids....he said we can keep meeting at $40 hotels for "awhile" longer....till he sorts things out...and we can be together.".

  this could be 1955 or 2011 and dumb girls still fall for this crap????

  for real????

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  Why do idiots walk around with phone ear pieces in when no one is calling?

  by Witness 007 in

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  they look like a borg alien from star trek with that stupid ear plug!!!

  i sat next to a guy having christmas dinner with family and the moron wore this thing in his ear for a couple hours.....but no calls!!!!!!!

  it must be sooo hard to have to pick up the phone and answer it...jackass!

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  Everybody wants to be somebody, or at least look like they're somebody.
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  LAWSUIT: The Strange Saga of Lorterdan Properties at Ramapo v. Watchtower of NY

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  the strange saga of lorterdan properties at ramapo v. watchtower of new york.

  information compiled by barbara anderson.

  on february 27, 2009, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. (watchtower) purchased 248 acres of land located in ramapo, new york, from a company named lorterdan properties at ramapo i, llc (lorterdan).

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  No Room For George

  Maybe Band on the Run, or anybody else with legal expertise can comment on this, but I'm under the impression that the WT is in the right on this. Since when did "good faith" ever trump what's written on a contract? Granted, the WT markets itself as a bastion of light and integrity, when we all know that couldn't be further from the truth, no pun intended. However, what they and that company agreed upon is on paper, and the WT all along had the right within two years of the contract to notify Lorterdan of its decision not to proceed with developement. At that point Lorterdan was to repurchase the land for what it was originally sold to the WT for, and the other 9.5million that the WT was responsible for, was to be negated.

  For whatever reason the WT decided not to develope the land, and gave enough notice of their lack of action, according to the contract's verbiage. Was it unscrupulous, especially considering all of the WT's actions related to the Community Benefit Agreement? Without a doubt. Still, according to the contract as long as the WT was in the specific time frame to notify that they're not going to proceed with developement, Lorterdan was to comply by repurchasing the land.

  Does this Lorterdan have a case, based upon, good faith? Has good faith ever swayed a case in times past?